香港英語教育:一語道破,定發嗡風?

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Amom1972 | 2014-04-02 08:55
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MrBeast | 2014-04-02 09:23
其實在hk, 大部份人和時間以cantonese 溝通,英文的確是2nd lang ,咁as a 2nd language 去教其實又唔覺有乜問題,況且,老師的英文level 又未到native level, 咁要as a first language 去教執行上有許多問題。不過以hk 長遠競爭力來看,正苦的確要在英文教育方面做些野。

其實閱讀和文法練習真的不能共存的嗎?
chunyatmama | 2014-04-02 09:51
Quote:MrBeast 發表於 14-4-2 09:23
其實在hk, 大部份人和時間以cantonese 溝通,英文的確是2nd lang ,咁as a 2nd language 去教其實又唔覺有 ...

My hubby discussed with some friends who with their kids in IS a few days ago. All the IS parents said that their IS have never teach gramma or spelling. The kids just keep using it, reading and writing something silly in the school. Their kids build up their language just like this. The major difference for IS and local school as mentioned above is the language environment. To systematically teach the 2nd language via gramma is not wrong. At least the teachers and the parents can assessment how much has the kid learnt. Yet, to achieve a fluent standard in terms of speaking is another problem.

Frankly, my English was terrible and now is less terrible. The major breakthrough for my English was due to my travelling experience at Europe for 50 days alone during the summer vacation whenI was a Year2 student in the University. I could not run and could not hide when I was lone in Europe. And I needed to SPEAK UP! So, experience in using the language is important. Before that, I have no confident in using English, not to mention to speak up by using it. My face would turn red and heart beating like hell : P

ANChan59 | 2014-04-02 10:11
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近年我不大瞭解小學情況,當年阿仔小二小三,我家CEO接到班主任溫馨提示,勸我們提醒阿仔不要在課堂提時態的名稱,因為下星期教育局會到校視學,如果阿仔這樣說,他們以為學校教文法,會被警告。我都奇怪點解唔可以教,她解釋教育局不希望學校教文法,只做閲讀,所以阿仔學校不會有系統教文法,我一直以為阿仔沒有學過正規文法課。


到現在奇怪,點解個個國際學校家長都話本地小學重文法輕閱讀?
阿仔的津小是特殊例子?
抑或學校不教,家長送子女出去外面英文中心學?

Amom1972 | 2014-04-02 10:13
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ANChan59 | 2014-04-02 10:16
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chunyatmama | 2014-04-02 10:29
Amom1972 但香港學生不應以2nd language之程度去讀大學 發表於 2 分鐘前
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Tough! That's s the truth. I guess more than 70% of the undergraduates in HK do not use English as their 1st language. I agree that good language is so important for one's learning efficiency. One of my classmates in the University before our graduation said that the only subject he believed to be important and useful, afterall, is English. He sincerely said that our English was not good enough to achieve an effective and efficient learning.

The only way we could do is trying to assist our kids to build up their language.

ANChan59 | 2014-04-02 10:32
Quote:Amom1972 發表於 14-4-2 10:13
其實問題很多,正是香港本地學生的英文水平不濟,讀大學時事倍功半,尤其是讀humanity subjects,之前在 ...
我兒子的小學語文能力,中文來自爺爺的說故事加背誦詩詞及少少文章分析(我的翻版!),英文來自太太的伴讀及家內英文對話,到高小,他看我們看書看journal,他亦自己拿起書。冇乜特別!
學校課本都是一般本地課程,我覺得沒有甚麽文法主導,不過學校十分強調中英閱讀計划,每個學生每學期有Reading log book, 同時要做reading summary and reading report。校內閱讀氣氛不俗,孩子之間互相良性互動。我以為間間津小差不多吧。

囝囝爸 | 2014-04-02 10:35
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囝囝爸:

學校不准教文法,此事是否屬實?

eviepa



Eviepa:

我說當年. 記憶中教署在上世紀90年中後, 推出一大教育改革, 名為 TOC 課程 (Target-oriented curriculum). 其一為小學階段完全放棄教文法. 學校要教我唔知准唔准. TOC 不知現還存在否.



以上是我於 09 年和 Eveipa 的答問。 當局想效法 Communicative Approach,冇聽講語境和應用,只靠寫讀,死得仲快,其後唯有不了了之!





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ANChan59 | 2014-04-02 10:40
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多謝你引証我暫時未有腦退化症!:happy:

你啱,當時CEO有刻意營造英語環境,及樓上樓下有外籍孩子,他們玩得多都好有幫助!

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